More shots will make it worse not better. Measles went extinct in the Americas in 2002. Since then the disease is caused mostly by the vaccine.

Recently vaccinated individuals are infectious for "2-3" days we thought. Turns out that can be up to a year.

This is worse, far worse with polio. And is why even polion and even smallpox s not extinct: vaccines spread disease.

Measles was well on its way to being extinct when the vaccine came out in 1961. As long as we vaccinate it will never go away.

Roy 2017: Measles Virus (MeV) Was Interrupted In The Americas In 2002. Wild-Type Viruses Of Genotype A Are No Longer Circulating.

Chen 2012: 13 Out Of The 16 Immunized Measles Cases Had Measles From The Vaccine Strain

Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease

"We demonstrated excretion of the Schwarz measles vaccine virus in a child with a vaccine-associated febrile rash illness in urine and in pharyngeal excretions." "Competing interests: Maja Santak is an employee of the Institute of Immunology, Zagreb, the national vaccine producer."

"As of 2017 vaccine-derived polio cases now outnumber those from the wild polio virus"

The tally for 2018 shows a dramatic swing: 98 cases of vaccine-derived polio; 29 cases of the wild version.

In 2018 they caused cases of paralytic polio in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Niger and Somalia. Genomic analysis of the strains involved showed that they had crossed borders, which is rare for vaccine-derived strains, and that some had circulated undetected for as long as four years.

In 2018 they caused cases of paralytic polio in the Democratic Republic of Congo, Nigeria, Niger and Somalia. Genomic analysis of the strains involved showed that they had crossed borders, which is rare for vaccine-derived strains, and that some had circulated undetected for as long as four years. Health officials worry that the outbreaks may spread to neighbouring countries.

That is a setback for Africa. The last person on the continent paralysed by the wild polio virus was a Nigerian child who contracted the disease in 2016, so Africa has probably already eradicated the wild virus

stopping oral polio vaccine use as soon as it is safely possible to do so"

2007 American soldier vaccinated for smallpox three weeks before shipping out to Iraq returns home to visit his family. His two-year-old son, two weeks later, develops a severe and dangerous skin infection caused by vaccinia virus. Critically ill, the child spends seven weeks in the hospital and is successfully treated with new anti-smallpox viral therapy. Soldier’s wife also ill from smallpox, has a mild case, and recovers

Soldier’s Smallpox Inoculation Sickens Son

The fundamental flaws in 20th century vaccine designs were in design, method and implementation and each is examined here.

The flu shot doesn't seem to work.

Vaccines are a tool but not the tool; Salk may have believed there was a needle for every disease and perhaps we have become accustomed to the notion the flu shot is as mandatory as the MMR shot. But the numbers are in and not only does not not prevent any deaths but it appears that the death rate is actually higher among people who got the shot.


Could some vaccines make diseases more deadly?

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens


Death from measles was on sharp decline until 1961 when the vaccine came out; it has still not gone away. One might almost argue the shot is preventing extinction of the virus somehow.

"will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes"

Vaccine failure confers lifelong greater susceptibility to the disease it was supposed to exterminate.

"Because of linked-epitope suppression, all children who were primed by DTaP vaccines will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes, and there is no easy way to decrease this increased lifetime susceptibility."
The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines-Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future. Cherry JD; © The Author(s) 2019. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of The Journal of the Pediatric Infectious Diseases Society

We replaced the polio virus in the wild with a lab grown one and gave prople cancer in the process: polio is not extinct and we're making it worse

"Polio is extinct" is something heard a lot but it isn't true. We still find polio in the wild and the problem as of 2018 is we find more vaccine derived polio than wild polio in the wild now. In short our global vaccination program is spreading the disease it's truing to eradicate.

Here is the WHO definition of a "vaccine derived virus".

Here are are a few of the more recent cases as of this writing.

  1. 2018-03-13 Congo. WP & VDP
  2. 03/16/2018
  3. 03/08/2018 Somalia. VDP

Side effects

Serious side effects.

The math of meningitis vaccines

Editorial by Robert Kennedy Jr.

The Atlantic - Does the Flu Vaccine Matter?

NOVEMBER 2009 - Whether this season’s swine flu turns out to be deadly or mild, most experts agree that it’s only a matter of time before we’re hit by a truly devastating flu pandemic—one that might kill more people worldwide than have died of the plague and AIDS combined. In the U.S., the main lines of defense are pharmaceutical—vaccines and antiviral drugs to limit the spread of flu and prevent people from dying from it. Yet now some flu experts are challenging the medical orthodoxy and arguing that for those most in need of protection, flu shots and antiviral drugs may provide little to none. So where does that leave us if a bad pandemic strikes?

Questions of vaccine efficacy and harm
While it is clearly false that all vaccines are unsafe and ineffective it is not valid to suggest all vaccines are safe and effective. As always, ignore labels, examine evidence.

Disclaimer: I have for decades on this network been a pro-vaccine proponent. I have routinely dismissed any negative discussion of vaccines as not serious.

But a funny thing happened while I was trying to prove at the science of the idea. The "measles model" does not apply to all viruses, Ebola and flu are not things you can ever get a working vaccine for. Polio the great success story now has major issues: SV40 research is painfully contemporary; somebody needs to explain why they reused needles in only the Belgian Congo which spread HIV vie polio shots; the only polio we find in the wild now is lab strains. All we've done in the end it to replace the wild strain with a lab strain.

That fact we do not and may never know where Marburg came from is worrisome. The US attempts by Secretary Clinton to literally smuggle banned Ebola recombinant virus pieces, when we know the virus has been aerosolized even more so.

I don't consider myself "Anti-Vax" and hope you don't think I am. But they need to be safe and they need to be effective.

Just in the scope of flu alone famous disasters abound: in 1948 no flu shot worked. In 1977 one person died of flu and 32 died of the flu shot. From that lab leak the Spanish Flu of 1918/19 leaked out, a virus the world virology community begged the US not to recover, but they did and it got out.

Now it's in so many animals worldwide - pigs and birds are the problem, that it's even in Penguins now. From one lab leak (and there have been many, even with Ebola) and now penguins have the virus.

These are not signs we are on the right course here trying to make sick people better. We need a robust vaccine industry but one not married to the snakes and rattles of the homeopathic origins of the art and at some point we must stop patting ourselves on the back to adding shelf life to something that isn't alive and look at what these things actually do to the body and the human genome over time. SV40 was one accident, Marburg another. Neither of these would have happened if we weren't playing with monkey glands ot make a certain kind of medicine, ludicrous on the face of it when others have been shown to work bur rejected for economic or political and not scientific reasons.

hpv: Side effects

kennedy: The math of meningitis vaccines

matter: The Atlantic - Does the Flu Vaccine Matter?