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I respect Gotzsche a lot and John Ioannidis, who he references, even more.

That being said, both their arguments only hold water if the mortality and death rate dosn't get too high and with half a million infected those argument get weaker literally by the hour.

Ionnedes said "Vaccines or affordable treatments take many months (or even years) to develop" and my question is why is it if he's so smart he doesn't know one already exists?

Gotzsche and Ionnedes are known for exposing how bad medicine is, not curing disease. Other men are the ones to listen to there.

What they did for COVID-19 in China

In the final week of March 2020 the US is poised to have more cases of Coronavirus than China where they have not had a new case in a week now. How they treated the ill in China may be instructive - here's what they did for them.


Lipinski 2015, Ebola and Selenium: How not to catch the 2019 Novel Coronavirus

what can the apparent immune to to Coronavirus, Influenza and Ebola teach us about the currency Coronavirus crisis? The answer is in a 2015 paper by Lipinski tht explains how good levels of serum selenium chemically inhibits viral infection and that no resistance is possible.





Corona: an epidemic of mass panic



By Professor Peter C. Gřtzsche

Almost everyone I talk to, lay people and colleagues (I am a specialist in internal medicine and have worked for two years at a department of infectious diseases) consider the Coronavirus pandemic a pandemic of panic, more than anything else.

On 8 March, I published in the BMJ about this. I wrote: “What if the Chinese had not tested their patients for coronavirus or there had not been any test? Would we have carried on with our lives, without restrictions, not worrying about some deaths here and there among old people, which we see every winter? I think so.”


A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data

By JOHN P.A. IOANNIDIS MARCH 17, 2020

The current coronavirus disease, Covid-19, has been called a once-in-a-century pandemic. But it may also be a once-in-a-century evidence fiasco.

At a time when everyone needs better information, from disease modelers and governments to people quarantined or just social distancing, we lack reliable evidence on how many people have been infected with SARS-CoV-2 or who continue to become infected. Better information is needed to guide decisions and actions of monumental significance and to monitor their impact.

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On the one hand he suggests the case fatality rate is the same as influenza.

It is not though for two very good reasons.

1) For two weeks, Americans have been dying of covid-19 at a rate of 2000-2500 day, making it the leading cause if death. This has not been tried since 1918.

2) He's comparing apples to oranges here. He's taking hospital received cases of flu and comparing to antibodies at large with covid 19.

If you want to compare Flu to Cov, then test for antibodies for both.

That is, you don't get to say "oh well, the numbers for covid 19 are from peope that made it to the hospital we we'll look at actual antibodies in the population" and them compare it to flu which the only numbers we have are from people that made it to the hospital.

You'd need numbers from a few previous years of people who had antibodies to flu, say every 10th person, to make a meaningful comparison.

In addition, the CDC numbers of flu are "estimates" and have been shown to be up to 10X too high. See the CBC article below.

I have great respect for Ioannidis, he wrote the paper that shows 9 out of 10 medical papers are not true, and presently works at Stanford with the METRICS project. He does good work, this is a minor niggle about the formula for the ratio of flu to covid infections.

Flu deaths reality check
http://www.cbc.ca/news/health/flu-deaths-reality-check-1.1127442



The difference between soap and detergent

... and why this matters in the context of handwashing to prevent viral infection.




https://www.patreon.com/posts/seven-silver-of-35766777

Levi Quackenboss - Seven Silver Linings of the Pandemic

A few weeks ago, as I was desperately looking for an upside to a national shutdown, a post about the Earth healing from pollution came my way. The world’s air was cleaner, the water was getting clearer. That was nice, I suppose. That was something to hold on to in such a crap situation. And then people finally started washing their hands for the first time in their lives, which was a miracle in itself, hopefully that habit will stay. Then homeschooling and homebirth came to the masses; both significant sub-movements of the health freedom and parental rights movement. As long as one has money to put food on the table, it’s lovely being home in the evening to go on a sunset walk and read books to your kids and tuck them into bed.

I try to hold onto these thoughts because this shutdown has been more divisive—in my personal life and in this community of ours— than the 2016 election. I have felt friendships die. I have read accusations that I don't think I'll ever get over.

But it’s been three weeks now and I’m happy to report that my relentless optimism has bounced back three-fold on this wild ride, and I want to give you all my seven major pandemic wins to bounce around in your brains while you wander from your pantry to the sofa and back to the pantry again.




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Facebook "fact checking" - who watches the watchers?

The irony here is, Facebookuses USA Today to "fact check" where Vit. C is any use with Covid 19. USA Today claims the WHO sayds is not use. In actual fact the WHO and The Lancet suggest it is helpful.

2020 Who: "Other adjunctive interventions with biologic plausibility include Vitamin C"
https://www.who.int/blueprint/priority-diseases/key-action/Coronavirus_Roadmap_V9.pdf

2020 Matthay: The Lancet - "Rescue therapy with high-dose vitamin C can also be considered"
https://www.thelancet.com/action/showPdf?pii=S2213-2600(20)30127-2

Sunnybrook: when the World Health Organization (WHO) included vitamin C in its list of COVID-19 research priorities, Sunnybrook's LOVIT trial aims to find out if intravenous vitamin C help critically ill COVID-19 patients.
https://sunnybrook.ca/research/media/item.asp?c=2&i=2098&f=covid-19-LOVIT-trial



SARS-CoV-2 could have escaped from a lab – and the US is in the frame

The US funded dangerous gain-of-function research on coronaviruses in China. Claire Robinson reports


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Should we add selenium to food?


In all of modern drug history, no vaccine has caused so many deaths to be registered in the U.S. VAERS [Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System] databases as the covid shot. This figure shows the comparison with the influenza vaccine.

Stop treating the healthy as if they were sick

Professor Alexandra Henrion Caude: “We must stop treating the healthy population as if they were sick,” Le Mauritien, Port Louis, Mauritius, 2021/12/01

A translation of

Professeur Alexandra Henrion Caude : « Il faut arręter de traiter la population saine comme si elle était malade »

Translation by Dennis Riches




06 gotzsche: Corona: an epidemic of mass panic
https://www.deadlymedicines.dk/corona-an-epidemic-of-mass-panic/


07 ionnidis: A fiasco in the making? As the coronavirus pandemic takes hold, we are making decisions without reliable data
https://www.statnews.com/2020/03/17/a-fiasco-in-the-making-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-takes-hold-we-are-making-decisions-without-reliable-data/


12 silver linings: Levi Quackenboss - Seven Silver Linings of the Pandemic
https://www.patreon.com/posts/seven-silver-of-35766777


19 caude: Stop treating the healthy as if they were sick
https://dennisriches.wordpress.com/2021/12/04/prof-alexandra-henrion-caude-stop-treating-the-healthy-as-if-they-were-sick/