Demonsterable harm from vaccines
"Chemotherapy, though still primordial, must eventually provide the ultimate solution to vaccine failures"

Hilleman, MR - Realities and enigmas of human viral influenza: pathogenesis, epidemiology and control.

WHO stats


The fundamental flaws in 20th century vaccine designs were in design, method and implementation and each is examined here.


The flu shot doesn't seem to work.

Vaccines are a tool but not the tool; Salk may have believed there was a needle for every disease and perhaps we have become accustomed to the notion the flu shot is as mandatory as the MMR shot. But the numbers are in and not only does not not prevent any deaths but it appears that the death rate is actually higher among people who got the shot.


Could some vaccines make diseases more deadly?

Imperfect Vaccination Can Enhance the Transmission of Highly Virulent Pathogens


By Andrew Maniotis, Ph.D.

Many have advanced the idea that vaccination is perhaps Mankind’s greatest medical achievement. Historically, it has been documented that the inoculation of dried pox-pus was practiced in Persia and India as an operation where the surface of the body was injured with needles or lancets, and foreign puss from “pox,” or perhaps from other disease effusions were placed into direct contact with the bloody wound or bloodstream of the inoculation recipient.

Side effects

Serious side effects.

The math of meningitis vaccines

Editorial by Robert Kennedy Jr.

The Atlantic - Does the Flu Vaccine Matter?

NOVEMBER 2009 - Whether this season’s swine flu turns out to be deadly or mild, most experts agree that it’s only a matter of time before we’re hit by a truly devastating flu pandemic—one that might kill more people worldwide than have died of the plague and AIDS combined. In the U.S., the main lines of defense are pharmaceutical—vaccines and antiviral drugs to limit the spread of flu and prevent people from dying from it. Yet now some flu experts are challenging the medical orthodoxy and arguing that for those most in need of protection, flu shots and antiviral drugs may provide little to none. So where does that leave us if a bad pandemic strikes?


Death from measles was on sharp decline until 1961 when the vaccine came out; it has still not gone away. One might almost argue the shot is preventing extinction of the virus somehow.

"will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes"

Vaccine failure confers lifelong greater susceptibility to the disease it was supposed to exterminate.

"Because of linked-epitope suppression, all children who were primed by DTaP vaccines will be more susceptible to pertussis throughout their lifetimes, and there is no easy way to decrease this increased lifetime susceptibility."
The 112-Year Odyssey of Pertussis and Pertussis Vaccines-Mistakes Made and Implications for the Future. Cherry JD; © The Author(s) 2019. Published by Oxford University Press on behalf of The Journal of the Pediatric Infectious Diseases Society


We replaced the polio virus in the wild with a lab grown one and gave prople cancer in the process: polio is not extinct and we're making it worse

"Polio is extinct" is something heard a lot but it isn't true. We still find polio in the wild and the problem as of 2018 is we find more vaccine derived polio than wild polio in the wild now. In short our global vaccination program is spreading the disease it's truing to eradicate.

Here is the WHO definition of a "vaccine derived virus".

Here are are a few of the more recent cases as of this writing.

  1. 2018-03-13 Congo. WP & VDP
  2. 03/16/2018
  3. 03/08/2018 Somalia. VDP


In 1927, yellow fever virus became the first human virus to be isolated.

"Up to one in four people experience fever, aches, and local soreness and redness at the site of injection.[35] In rare cases (less than one in 200,000 to 300,000),[33] the vaccination can cause yellow fever vaccine-associated viscerotropic disease, which is fatal in 60% of cases. It is probably due to the genetic morphology of the immune system. Another possible side effect is an infection of the nervous system, which occurs in one in 200,000 to 300,000 cases, causing yellow fever vaccine-associated neurotropic disease, which can lead to meningoencephalitis and is fatal in less than 5%[33] of cases.[4][18]" - Wikipedia

Questions of vaccine efficacy and harm
While it is clearly false that all vaccines are unsafe and ineffective it is not valid to suggest all vaccines are safe and effective. As always, ignore labels, examine evidence.

Disclaimer: I have for decades on this network been a pro-vaccine proponent. I have routinely dismissed any negative discussion of vaccines as not serious.

But a funny thing happened while I was trying to prove at the science of the idea. The "measles model" does not apply to all viruses, Ebola and flu are not things you can ever get a working vaccine for. Polio the great success story now has major issues: SV40 research is painfully contemporary; somebody needs to explain why they reused needles in only the Belgian Congo which spread HIV vie polio shots; the only polio we find in the wild now is lab strains. All we've done in the end it to replace the wild strain with a lab strain.

That fact we do not and may never know where Marburg came from is worrisome. The US attempts by Secretary Clinton to literally smuggle banned Ebola recombinant virus pieces, when we know the virus has been aerosolized even more so.

I don't consider myself "Anti-Vax" and hope you don't think I am. But they need to be safe and they need to be effective.

Just in the scope of flu alone famous disasters abound: in 1948 no flu shot worked. In 1977 one person died of flu and 32 died of the flu shot. From that lab leak the Spanish Flu of 1918/19 leaked out, a virus the world virology community begged the US not to recover, but they did and it got out.

Now it's in so many animals worldwide - pigs and birds are the problem, that it's even in Penguins now. From one lab leak (and there have been many, even with Ebola) and now penguins have the virus.

These are not signs we are on the right course here trying to make sick people better. We need a robust vaccine industry but one not married to the snakes and rattles of the homeopathic origins of the art and at some point we must stop patting ourselves on the back to adding shelf life to something that isn't alive and look at what these things actually do to the body and the human genome over time. SV40 was one accident, Marburg another. Neither of these would have happened if we weren't playing with monkey glands ot make a certain kind of medicine, ludicrous on the face of it when others have been shown to work bur rejected for economic or political and not scientific reasons.


hpv: Side effects

kennedy: The math of meningitis vaccines

matter: The Atlantic - Does the Flu Vaccine Matter?