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Demonsterable harm from vaccines
Questions of vaccine efficacy and harm
While it is clearly false that all vaccines are unsafe and ineffective it is not valid to suggest all vaccines are safe and effective. As always, ignore labels, examine evidence.

Disclaimer: I have for decades on this network been a pro-vaccine proponent. I have routinely dismissed any discussion of vaccines as not serious.

But a funny thing happened while I was trying to prove at the science of the idea. The "measles model" does not apply to all viruses, Ebola and flu are not things you can ever get a working vaccine for. Polio the great success story now has major issues: SV40 reserch is pinfully contemporary; somebody needs to explain why they resused needls in only the Belgian Congo which spread HIV; the only polio we find in the wild now is lab strains. All we've done in the end it to replace the wild strain with a lab strain.

That fact we do not and may never know whre Marburg came from is worrisome. The US attempts by Secretary Clinton to literally smuggle banned Ebola recombinant virus pieces, when we know the virus has been aerosolized even more so.

I don't consider myself "Anti-Vax" and hope you don't think I am. But they need to be safe and they need to be effective.

Just in the scope of flu alone famous disasters abound: in 1948 no flu shot worked. In 1977 one person died of flu and 32 died of the flu shot. From that lab leak the Spanish Flu of 1918/19 leaked out, a virus the world virology community begged the US not to recover, but they did and it got out.

Now it's in so many animals worldwide - pigs and birds are the problem, that it's even in Penguins now. From one lab leak (and there have been many, even with Ebola) and now penguins have the virus.

These are not signs we are on the right course here trying to make sick people better. We need a robust vaccine industry but one not married to the snakes and rattles of the homeopathic origins of the art and at some point we must stop patting ourselves on the back to adding shelf life to something that isn't alive and look at what these things actually do to the body and the human genome over time. SV40 was one accident, Marburg another. Neither of these would have happened if we weren't playing with monkey glands ot make a certain kind of medicine, ludicrous on the face of it when others have been shown to work bur rejected for economic or political and not scientific reasons.

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GlaxoSmithKline Given Small Fine For Killing Babies During Vaccine Trials


Side effects

Serious side effects.


The math of meningitis vaccines

Editorial by Robert Kennedy Jr.


The Atlantic - Does the Flu Vaccine Matter?

NOVEMBER 2009 - Whether this season’s swine flu turns out to be deadly or mild, most experts agree that it’s only a matter of time before we’re hit by a truly devastating flu pandemic—one that might kill more people worldwide than have died of the plague and AIDS combined. In the U.S., the main lines of defense are pharmaceutical—vaccines and antiviral drugs to limit the spread of flu and prevent people from dying from it. Yet now some flu experts are challenging the medical orthodoxy and arguing that for those most in need of protection, flu shots and antiviral drugs may provide little to none. So where does that leave us if a bad pandemic strikes?


Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease

Public Health Officials Know: Recently Vaccinated Individuals Spread Disease Tuesday, 3 Mar 2015 | 2:41 PM ET Globe Newswire Washington, D.C., March 3, 2015 (GLOBE NEWSWIRE) -- Physicians and public health officials know that recently vaccinated individuals can spread disease and that contact with the immunocompromised can be especially dangerous. For example, the Johns Hopkins Patient Guide warns the immunocompromised to "Avoid contact with children who are recently vaccinated," and to "Tell friends and family who are sick, or have recently had a live vaccine (such as chicken pox, measles, rubella, intranasal influenza, polio or smallpox) not to visit."1


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The flu shot doesn't seem to work.

Vaccines are A tool but not THE tool. Salk had the idea that there was a needle for every disease and we've become accustomed to the notion the fu shot is as mandatory as the MMR shot. But the numbers are in and not only does not not prevent any deaths but it appears that the death rate is actually higher among people who got the shot.



We replaced the polio virus in the wild with a lab grown one and gave prople cancer in the process: polio is not extinct and we're making it worse

"Polio is extinct" is something heard a lot but it isn't true. We still find polio in the wild and the problem as of 2018 is we find more vaccine derived polio than wild polio in the wild now. In short our global vaccination program is spreading the disease it's truing to eradicate.

Here is the WHO definition of a "vaccine derived virus".

Here are are a few of the more recent cases as of this writing.

  1. 2018-03-13 Congo. WP & VDP
  2. 03/16/2018
  3. 03/08/2018 Somalia. VDP

The fundamental flaws in 20th century vaccine designs were in design, method and implementation and each is examined here.