Questions of vaccine efficacy and harm
While it is clearly false that all vaccines are unsafe and ineffective it is not valid to suggest all vaccines are safe and effective.
As always, ignore labels, examine evidence.
Disclaimer: I have for decades on this network been a pro-vaccine proponent. I have routinely dismissed any discussion of vaccines as not serious.
But a funny thing happened while I was trying to prove at the science of the idea. The "measles model" does not apply to all viruses, Ebola and flu are not things you can ever get a working vaccine for. Polio the great success story now has major issues: SV40 reserch is pinfully contemporary; somebody needs to explain why they resused needls in only the Belgian Congo which spread HIV; the only polio we find in the wild now is lab strains. All we've done in the end it to replace the wild strain with a lab strain.
That fact we do not and may never know whre Marburg came from is worrisome. The US attempts by Secretary Clinton to literally smuggle banned Ebola recombinant virus pieces, when we know the virus has been aerosolized even more so.
I don't consider myself "Anti-Vax" and hope you don't think I am. But they need to be safe and they need to be effective.
Just in the scope of flu alone famous disasters abound: in 1948 no flu shot worked. In 1977 one person died of flu and 32 died of the flu shot. From that lab leak the Spanish Flu of 1918/19 leaked out, a virus the world virology community begged the US not to recover, but they did and it got out.
Now it's in so many animals worldwide - pigs and birds are the problem, that it's even in Penguins now. From one lab leak (and there have been many, even with Ebola) and now penguins have the virus.
These are not signs we are on the right course here trying to make sick people better. We need a robust vaccine industry but one not married to the snakes and rattles of the homeopathic origins of the art and at some point we must stop patting ourselves on the back to adding shelf life to something that isn't alive and look at what these things actually do to the body and the human genome over time. SV40 was one accident, Marburg another. Neither of these would have happened if we weren't playing with monkey glands ot make a certain kind of medicine, ludicrous on the face of it when others have been shown to work bur rejected for economic or political and not scientific reasons.